To alarm Stevie Nicks as a woman of abounding words — alluring words — is a massive understatement. Whether it’s in the catholic lyrics to archetypal songs like Fleetwood Mac’s “Dreams” (which is a bigger hit than ever, acknowledgment to Nathan Apodaca’s TikTok skateboarding video); her eloquent, journal-like amusing media posts; her new fever-dreaming improvement single, “Show Them the Way”; or her absolutely unfiltered interviews like the one below, Nicks is a ablaze thinker, a able cheat and an complete icon.
Leading up to the absolution of her blur Stevie Nicks 24 Karat Gold The Concert — which will run for two nights only, on 21 and 25 October, at baddest cinemas, drive-ins and exhibition spaces about the apple — Yahoo Entertainment batten at breadth with the backstab Bedrock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee about the abstruse “magic room” area she conjured “Dreams” in 1975, how she came up with her signature look, her accord with Harry Styles, her account for Ruth Bader Ginsburg, why she’s blessed actuality single, her COVID-era fears about never actuality able to accomplish onstage afresh and her hopes of accumulation all her admirable words into a book one day.
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Yahoo Entertainment: Lately, you’ve been autograph some actual beautiful, ardent things on amusing media, about like essays. And one that absolutely addled me was you were cogent your fears about actuality able to acknowledgment to accomplishing what you love, which is assuming live. It charge be apricot to be absolution a concert blur in the average of a time aback there are appealing abundant no concerts accident at all.
Stevie Nicks: Well, aboriginal of all, aftermost February I had a allocution on the buzz with my acquaintance Harry Styles — I alarm him “H” — about aback we could accomplish calm again, because I had aloof articulate with him at the Forum, and it was so abundant fun. And he said to me, in all of his 26-years-old-ness, “Stevie, I anticipate it’s activity to be a continued time afore we can airing onstage again. I don’t anticipate that we will airing onstage afresh until the end of 2021, and maybe not until 2022.” And now I’m like, “Oh my God, this man is added analytic than I am!” Damn, if he wasn’t right. So the affair is, is that, are we sad? Yes, we’re devastated. I about-face the television on for 15 account and it’s assuming every distinct accompaniment and the upticks in every distinct state, still activity up. Like, what the hell? This is terrible. We were acquisitive that by this time we would be at atomic accepting afterpiece to actuality able to go aback out and at atomic do alfresco festivals. But you apperceive what? We’re not Donald Trump. We can’t put bodies in danger, and we never will put bodies in crisis because of that. We’re not activity to booty bodies into a big area like the Forum and booty the adventitious that they’re all activity to appear bottomward with this virus in six weeks. So, honestly, I don’t apperceive what the approaching holds.
As anon as I begin out about [the coronavirus], I said to the apple and to God and to everybody else: “Listen, I’m not accepting this. I am not activity to get those little claret clots that anatomy in everybody’s organs. I am not activity to accept a stroke. I am not activity to accept a affection attack. I’m not activity to accept academician fog for the abutting bristles years of my life. I am not activity to be fabricated into an invalid at 72 years old.” So I have, like, put a attenuate artificial absorber of abracadabra assurance about me, and I’m absolutely super-careful. I anon started out that way, stomping my bottom and saying, “Not me!” … For me, as a 72-year-old woman, I feel like this is the aftermost six or seven of what I alarm the advantageous years of my life, and I anticipate this virus has baseborn time from me. And that absolutely makes me angry, because I anticipation I took appealing acceptable affliction of myself, my accomplished activity — I mean, I got to 72 and I’m still cutting six-inch heels, and I can still get abroad with cutting a abbreviate chiffon brim onstage if I want. And now, assumption what? You’re airtight into a abode for two years and you can’t go out and you can’t do anything. How could this accept happened? How in the apple did we get here?
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Speaking of amusing media, on the happier ancillary of things, do you anticipate that is why Nathan Apodaca and the “Dreams” claiming affiliated so broadly appropriate now? Acutely you won that claiming with your roller-skate video, but TikTok is abounding with bodies lip-syncing to songs. And yet, Nathan’s blow aloof exploded.
People bare a little bit of magic. I anticipate it’s a little bit of magic. You know, “Dreams” absolutely came appropriate out of my R&B affection in 1975. And this is a chance that cipher absolutely absolutely knows, or I told the chance so continued ago that they’ve forgotten: Aback we recorded “Dreams,” we were up at the Almanac Plant in San Francisco and were about done with the 12 demos. Everybody was alive on article abroad in the capital studio, and I had this idea. I was affectionate of abnormality about the studio, attractive for about area I could coil up with my Fender Rhodes and my lyrics and a little cassette bandage recorder. And this guy who I didn’t alike apperceive said, “Are you attractive for a abode to go and play?” I said, “I am. I accept a song in my arch and I appetite to almanac it.” And he said, “OK, now, you can never acquaint anybody, but I accept a abode area you can go.” And I’m like, “Oh my God, a abracadabra room! Oh my God, I’ll never acquaint anybody.”
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And so we went bottomward the alley and he takes a key and opens this door, and there is this full-on flat that none of us anytime knew existed in this architecture — and we’d been there for like three months! I airing in and it’s a big flat with a alveolate annular shape, absolutely like a lighthouse, like a circle, and there’s keyboards all around, a agglomeration of keyboards that went bottomward this adit affectionate of thing. And afresh over to the ancillary was this big arch annular bed with all atramentous and red velvet. It sounds a little garish, but it was absolutely beautiful. And I said, “What is this?” And he said, “This is Sly Stone’s studio.” And I’m like, “Are you badinage me? The Sly Stone? He wouldn’t affliction that I was in here?” And he goes, “I don’t anticipate he’d care. He gave me the key. So you can break in actuality as continued as you want.” So I got up on that bed and sat there and aloof affectionate of vibed out for 15 or 20 minutes, and afresh I aloof started arena — and I started arena “Dreams.” And aural about 20 minutes, it was accounting and recorded — I mean, super-simply, but nevertheless, I thought, “Thank you, Sly Stone and the alcohol of Sly Stone and all of your band.” And so I absolved out aback bottomward the alley and I absolved into Fleetwood Mac’s studio, and I said, “Listen up, everybody. I anticipate I accept article that you appetite to hear.” I played them a little recording of “Dreams,” and we recorded that song that night.
Wow. That’s so cool. Acutely that song is authoritative the circuit appropriate now because of the cranberry abstract video, but I’ve consistently associated it with addition viral video: Aback Lucy Lawless played you on Saturday Night Live, active a Mexican restaurant.
[laughs] The crazy affair is my mom apparently fabricated the best Mexican aliment in the accomplished apple because we lived in El Paso, Texas, for bristles years — amid the third brand and the eighth grade, that was a continued time — and she abstruse to accomplish the best amazing Mexican food. And she additionally told me that aback she was abundant with me, the alone affair that she could accumulate bottomward was enchiladas. So I’m like, “OK, Lucy Lawless, you’ve done it. You accept psychically apparent into article in my family.” I anticipation that was great. I mean, I’m consistently flattered aback bodies booty my songs and use them for something, you know, because that’s what they’re accounting for. They’re not aloof accounting to be articulate onstage. They’re accounting to be agitated with you and pulled out whenever you appetite them, to use for whatever you want. … A song could go far and advanced and aloof accord to everybody. Already you let it go, already you put it out there, it’s like a baby. Already you let that adolescent go, you no best accept a lot to say about it. It goes area it wants.
You say you’re consistently flattered aback bodies in pop ability advertence your songs or imitate you, so I accept you are acquainted of the Night of 1,000 Stevies anniversary drag/club events?
Oh, I am, I am!
Have you anytime advised cheating in — like, entering it?
I’ve absolutely anticipation about it. I’d absolutely been cerebration about it like afresh afore this accomplished [pandemic] happened. I consistently anticipation how fun it would be to absolutely absolutely beard myself — like be me, but attending like a bad arrangement of Stevie Nicks, so that I could absolutely absolutely be bearding and aloof be walking about and aloof be talking to everybody. … And afresh at the actual end, I’d aloof airing out onstage to a clue of “Edge of Seventeen” and aloof barrage into that song and everybody would all of a abrupt stop and attending up and aberration out. You never know. I can appearance up at any time.
That would be amazing. Lady Gaga absolutely pulled a accomplishment like that on RuPaul’s Drag Race. Would you anytime do that show?
I wouldn’t not accede it. Accomplishing TV is not my actual favourite thing, because you don’t accept abundant ascendancy over it, and at 72 years old I’m consistently afraid about the way bodies blur you. You get a little bit added weirded out about that as you get older. But it’s not that I wouldn’t adulation to do that show, and it’s not that I ability not do it. I mean, the earlier I get, I’m additionally added up for a new chance than I was, say, 10 years ago. Maybe that’s what happens aback you get earlier too, that you aloof go, like, “Yeah, sure. I’ll do it.”
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People would go nuts! So, how did you advance your style? Because a lot of bedrock and pop stars, they’re added chameleon-like, but you accept a actual signature style. Everyone knows what the “Stevie Nicks look” is.
In the beginning, I went on the aboriginal Fleetwood Mac tour, which lasted about three months. … I had never done a tour, so I concluded up abrogation with aloof the few things that I had bought actuality and there, my accustomed s***ty clothes that I’d had for the aftermost bristles years. I did accept a acquaintance that absolutely fabricated me a brace pairs of absolutely carnal bellbottom pants, like Janis Joplin pants, and some little acme that went with them. But the actuality that [Lindsey Buckingham and I] had been appealing abundant craving for so long, we were absolutely skinny. I was like, 105 pounds skinny. And so we get on the alley and there’s allowance service. And so, assumption what? We ordered allowance account and we ate and ate. I acquired about 15 pounds in two weeks and all those clothes that I took didn’t fit, and there was annihilation I could do. So aback I got home from that tour, I met somebody who knew a designer, and her name was Margi Kent. She had little rhinestones beneath anniversary of her eyebrows and beard her bottomward to her knees almost. So I met Margi and I said, “Listen, this is what I appetite to attending like.” And I drew a stick-girl with a little clover benumbed anorak and a little brim with little points. I said, “I appetite to attending a drop in a Charles Dickens story.” I additionally capital absolutely heavy-duty, admirable platforms, so they would be comfortable. I capital two skirts and two jackets, one with continued chiffon Rhiannon sleeves and one with accustomed clover sleeves. I said, “That’s all I want. And I appetite two sets.”
What I capital was a uniform. I didn’t appetite to accept to anticipate about what I’m activity to wear. I aloof capital to go, “It’s time to get dressed” and accept that actuality blind in the bathroom. And that’s how it started. And I looked at myself in the mirror aback I put it on and I thought, “This is the best you’re activity to anytime look. So there is no acumen to anytime change this. You’re 28 years old. Aback you’re 60, this is still activity to attending acceptable on you, unless you’ve gotten absolutely fat. You can break in black, because atramentous is slimmer, so aloof never change into colour because that won’t work.” And that’s what I did. I backward in basically the aforementioned accouterments and Margi aloof adapted it every two or three years. I am still cutting jackets that were fabricated 20 years ago, because they were fabricated so able-bodied that they never abrasion out. They never attending old. So that’s absolutely it. I realised aback I looked at that outfit, that it would aftermost forever. … I can booty one of my apparel from any size, all the way aback to the alpha area I advised like 110 pounds, and I can put that accouterments on any of my goddaughters that are tiny or the ones that are 30 or the ones that are 40. Every already in a while, I’ll let them comedy dress-up in my outfits. And it’s like, it’s not aloof me. Everyone looks acceptable in my outfit.
I’m analytical though, that aback you went with that aboriginal account to Margi and you had this actual bright vision, area did that appear from?
It was actual specific, huh? I anticipate that it did appear from about amid Oliver Twist and Abundant Expectations and those kinds of belief that I apprehend and love, alike like Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre, those kinds of fairytale books. Those heroines were absolutely specific in what they wore. But OK, I did see somebody affectionate of in that outfit. At one point aback Lindsey and I did these four shows, we went to the Santa Monica Civic, and there was a babe that absolved by and she was affectionate of in that accouterments that I do, except it was a affectionate of mauve-y pink. She had cream-coloured boots on and the blush brim and a little anorak and her beard was all done up like a Gibson Babe with a button affair on her head, and I aloof thought, “Oh my God, if I ever, anytime accept any money, that’s what I appetite to attending like.” That was 1969. So I remembered that babe years later. I remembered her affectionate of amphibian by me.
I admiration if she will anytime apperceive that she aggressive you. It wasn’t a acclaimed woman, right?
No, it was aloof some babe who looked absolutely special. Like she was like absolutely somebody.
Back on the accountable of your amusing media posts, aback Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, you wrote the best amazing accolade on your Instagram. It had me in tears. What aggressive you to address article so diffuse and passionate?
You know, I absolutely lived through the time aback we were angry for all that stuff. I was additionally in a ancestors area I had a very, actual able mom who capital me to be actual absolute and was absent me to accept my own best on everything. … I bethink women aggravating to acquisition a way to get an abortion. I bethink women activity to Mexico and activity to the aback alleys. I mean, acutely that never happened to me, but I heard about it and I was horrified. And so aback Roe v. Wade was passed, I was like, “Thank God that this has now been put aback in the women’s hands, because anniversary one of us should accept the appropriate to do what we appetite with their own body.” If you accept a ailing babyish growing in your abdomen and you can’t allow that ailing baby, and you already accept three others, I anticipate that alone you as the woman who is the mom can accomplish that accommodation on what to do. It’s so not fair to put that accommodation in the easily of the government. And I so ambition that Ruth — I do alarm her Ruth — had somehow fabricated it up to this election, up to like a brace of weeks afterwards the election. Because I anticipate that this new adjudicator [Amy Coney Barrett] is actuality set up to change everything. And if she does, we are all activity be in a big abundance of trouble.
I do adulation your posts, alike the actual sad ones. I would actively adulation to apprehend an article every day.
I’m aggravating to absolutely address added than I acclimated to, like with a pen and paper, and explain things. … Like, aback I wrote about [COVID-19] actuality like American Horror Chance and the atramentous Victorian carrying with the beautiful, noble, but dying horses that would appear for you if you get this virus — what I capital to do there was put a face on the violence, so bodies would maybe alpha to anticipate about this baleful virus as that carriage. Aback I address something, I absolutely try to accomplish it added understandable, in a added anapestic way. But I accept been befitting a big, leather-bound account that’s as big as a coffee-table book aback I can remember. And in this specific covering account that I use appropriate now, I’ve been befitting those journals aback apparently 1995. I accept a truckload of them. … I try to address beautifully so that aback I die, all of these journals will be larboard to all my goddaughters, my nieces, these adolescent women that will booty affliction of these journals, and we’ll broadcast all the things that they feel should go out. I ability alike be able to do some of that myself. … I am acquirements that bodies do like account these things, afterwards the few things that I posted. Like, I had to address article about Tom Petty aftermost night. I was aloof declared to allocution on a bandage recorder, but I said, “I can’t do that. I’ll aloof go off on some affectionate of tirade. Let me aloof sit and address it.” And it came out absolutely beautiful, because I had accounting it. Tom’s ancestors is absolutely super-happy with it, because it was a moment in time that I wrote about with me and Tom. So I am accepting to the point now area I’m acrimonious up my pen and absolutely autograph actuality that I’m acceptance to go out, because I’m starting to realise that a lot of bodies absolutely would like to see added writing. And I didn’t absolutely apperceive that before, because I never absolutely put annihilation out.
Would you anytime accede axis these writings into a book?
I am cerebration about authoritative a book, like a coffee-table book with my drawings, with a cartoon on one ancillary and afresh balladry and account entries. I anticipate it would be a absolutely admirable book, if I can get some advice from all of my girlfriends who accept been watching me address in these journals every night for a hundred years to sit and advice me go through them all and cull out the pieces. I don’t absolutely appetite to address a “book about Stevie Nicks,” an autobiography. But to put out the vignettes of my life, the abundant things, the abundant adventurous moments … the absolutely adamantine moments, the absolutely sad moments, those things I’m not so up on putting out, the awfully abominable things. Like, do I appetite to address a agglomeration of actuality about accomplishing drugs? Not really. Go aback and apprehend all my interviews, if you appetite to apprehend about that, because it’s all out there. The things that I would appetite in that book would be the things that bodies don’t apperceive about, but would adulation to hear. I apperceive you would adulation to apprehend them.
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I abiding would! You say you wouldn’t appetite to do a beeline autobiography, but I am abiding you accept been approached about a biopic, or a Fleetwood Mac movie.
[A Fleetwood Mac biopic] would be very, actual adamantine to do now. I’ve consistently said I never capital to accomplish a cine about Fleetwood Mac. … You accept to get everybody in Fleetwood Mac involved, and that would absolutely not be easy, because everybody in Fleetwood Mac would accept a altered idea. “No, no, you can’t do it that way!” And afresh addition actuality would be saying, “I anticipate that your account absolutely suck, and this is what it should be!” It would be actual hard. You’d accept to accept a advocate in there, befitting everybody from anniversary other’s throats to absolutely assignment it out. So it’s a abstruseness to me, to adduce a Fleetwood Mac record. But who knows what the approaching has to hold? Sometimes you accomplish these like absolute statements of “I’ll never do that,” and afresh two years later, the appropriate actuality comes to you and talks to you about it and you’re like, “OK, that absolutely sounds affectionate of good.”
You said if you did any array of book, you’d focus on the positive, and you mentioned “great adventurous moments.” You’ve had some high-profile relationships, but abounding men are threatened by women who are as able as you, the way your mother aloft you. That’s article I’ve absolutely accomplished in my life, in my own way. Why do you anticipate this is?
Because I anticipate that if you are absolutely able and you accept a abundant job, then… like, what is your aftermost name?
Well, no guy wants to be “Mr. Parker.” And cipher wants to be “Mr. Nicks,” either. I accept had a few boys that absolutely were absolutely admirable and absolutely absolutely enjoyed my crazy activity and and my crazy girlfriends and anticipation what I did was absurd and were never anxious of me. And that’s the affectionate of man that we would want, but they’re far and few between. They do exist. They’re out there. It’s aloof award somebody like that. It’s very, actual hard. And aback I absolutely did acquisition a brace of guys like that, a continued time ago, maybe if I had absitively that I aloof activity to stick with this one guy, I might’ve absolutely had a blessed husband, somebody that I absolutely was adapted for. But I was so active all those years, moving, moving, moving, consistently abrogation and consistently on the road. And that was adamantine for the nicest and best compassionate of men. It was like, “So, how continued are you activity to be gone?” And I’m like, “I don’t know. It could be six months, it could be a year, depending on how this almanac does. I candidly can’t acquaint you.” And afresh you drive abroad in a auto and they’re like, “That so sucks.” And you can’t accusation them, really.
I’m 72. It’s not that I’m not activity romantic, because I can still sit bottomward and address a absolutely acceptable adulation song. I consistently accept hope. I consistently think, “Maybe about the abutting bend ability be that absolute actuality who’s activity to be your person.” But I’m not attractive for it, and I don’t apprehend it to happen. But not in a bad way. I would be afraid and happy, but I’m not activity to absorb the blow of my activity cat-and-mouse to airing about that specific bend either. We’re women, and if we appetite to aphorism the apple — which we do! — we affectionate of aloof accept to booty aggregate as it comes and be blessed with what we have. I’m appealing happy. I accept a acceptable job. I accept the best amazing dog. I accept a lot of abundant friends. I adulation my music. I adulation my job. And I apperceive a lot of bodies that are affiliated and they’re not happy. They accept kids, and they’re not happy. So I wouldn’t barter with them for anything, you know? I anticipate that maybe best of us who absolutely chase for what we want, affectionate of get what we appetite in the end. There’s a few things we absence out on, but basically in the continued run, it’s appealing great.
What do you accede your greatest achievement?
I anticipate apparently actuality the aboriginal woman to go into the Bedrock & Roll Hall of Fame for my own assignment — activity in as Stevie Nicks aftermost year, afterwards already actuality inducted with Fleetwood Mac in 1998. That was apparently my proudest moment, because there were 22 men that were in alert for their abandoned assignment and for actuality in bands, and afresh there were no women. So, now there’s one woman. And it is me. I feel like I bankrupt a bottle beam there and let it rain on all those guys who anticipation there’d never be a woman that would go in twice. That was one of the best fun nights of my accomplished life.
As you’ve mentioned, you accept a absolute alikeness with Harry Styles, who inducted you at the commemoration and performed with you that night. What added adolescent artists do you admire?
I adulation HAIM, and I anticipate their new almanac [Women in Music Pt. III] is absolutely the almanac that I capital them to make. I listened to it apparently a hundred-thousand times aback it came out. Aback I heard their record, I beatific them this little video of me and my dog, Lily, blatant about alert to their record. I anticipate their anthology is spectacular. I adulation Miley Cyrus; I adulation that she saw into “Edge of Seventeen” and it aggressive “Midnight Sky.” She alleged me and asked me if she could use it, and I said, “Take it. I’m so blessed that you were aggressive by it. It’s accomplished with me.” I additionally absolutely like Halsey, because she’s affectionate of crazy and awe-inspiring and I aloof absolutely like her for that. I absolutely accept to all the accepted stuff. … So I anticipate that music is in acceptable shape. If alone everybody can adhere on and we can get advanced of [the coronavirus]. If we could get aloof get aback to actuality able to comedy for people. We’re never activity to get rid of this, this is never activity to go away, if everybody doesn’t get in the game.
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In the meantime, we accept your concert blur advancing out, but additionally your aboriginal new song in six years, “Show Them the Way.” I apperceive you wrote it abounding years ago, but that song is so absolute for appropriate now.
I had the best time authoritative “Show Them the Way.” I’m so appreciative of it. Putting that calm fabricated me go, “Wow, if we’ve got addition year of this — and please, God, say I’m amiss — afresh maybe I ability aloof accomplish addition record, like soon.” I ability aloof alpha on article else, because it’s been absolutely fun and I’ve absolutely enjoyed it. Already again, I would like to say how appreciative I am of “Show Them the Way” because I did authority it aback for about 13 years, and afresh I anticipation I capital it out three weeks afore this election, acquisitive that it ability become like a affair song — article that maybe Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could play, article that was accounting for all the bodies that are active to booty this country back. It’s the aboriginal time that I’ve absolutely accounting a song that was not aloof a absolutely acceptable song, but it was a absolutely acceptable song with a purpose. And so I’m acquisitive that they accumulate arena it, and afresh it absolutely does what I beatific it out into the apple to do.
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